Spirituality for Living

There is a lot of debate in spiritual and metaphysical circles about whether identification with the body is appropriate, and strong arguments are made for both sides. Where do you stand, friends? Are we our bodies or are we not?

• Well, our bodies are here. Ignoring it won’t make it go away, and sometimes they cause misery.
• Who is “we”? Good question.
• I heard something about a book written on reincarnation, and the author maintains that we tend to look basically the same life after life. So that would indicate, if true, that we have some identification with it. “Return of the Revolutionaries: The Case for Reincarnation and Soul Groups Reunited” is the name of the book. Past Life Regression (PLR) exploration seems to support that.
• Our body does reflect our personality/soul. I can see that in how we get an illness that mirrors our inner state. The avatar phenomenon cannot be discarded as disposable novelty. Something good is going on in this media. Indeed, archetypal links are quite valid. But the mind/body/keyboard interface still has it’s grounding in the physical. Neural transponders aren’t in widespread use yet.

I myself work with this topic pretty routinely, and explore the relationship between body/mind/soul. My body, even according to science, is a bit “off”. But about the body consciousness, it’s often depicted as the source of evil and selfishness. Why is this?

• Me, mine, need to have?
• Being selfish about your health is ok though, isn’t it? This is evil or just factual necessity?
• Indulging the body’s desires too much can put us off balance? I would offer that indulging the minds compulsions that links to the bodies desires can create imbalance. But if we are only indulging the bodies desires, then we will not eat when we are not hungry.
• Good point, but sometimes I overeat because I just want to feel the sauce on my tongue. Is that the mind? Hmm, yes actually, because you have evaluated taste gratification as easier to get than the gratification you really want.

Our body is “our body”, and also in a way it’s not. How many here feel some degree of disassociation from their body?

• The fact that I watch my body would be a degree of disassociation? Yes, it would.
• As in wishing I didn’t have a body? And that too.
• Me too. I’m embarrassed by having a body.

Guys? It’s stereotypical that men identify with their bodies, but ladies you might be surprised.

• As a tool. See, so there he says he doesn’t. He sees his body as a tool he uses.

So yes, in a way our bodies belong to us, and in a way they don’t. In a way, our bodies belong to the earth itself. Our bodies have a wisdom born of the earth “eco-system” or consciousness that we ourselves do not create, or learn, or dictate.

Your thoughts are welcome. Be well friends.

Travis Saunders
Dragon Intuitive
~science,mysticism,spirituality~

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