Subjectivity and objectivity form two facets of a body of experience provided by a web of energy potential and actualized. That has characteristics independent of the individual observer.
Even in those people who are not themselves mentally diseased, the disease entity can leave an energetic of experiential trace. You can bear the “emotional scar” of the disease, and that can serve as a vector for the disease entities spread.
I have experienced it in depression, seeing the world through that particular filter. And you have shared the depression state with those around you. I can depress others just by being. This trait isn’t unique to you, nor did it originate even with human beings. The disease entity operates that way, parasitical.
Animals can be depressed. Animals can indeed be depressed.
Parasitical implies dependency. It implies a state of neurological shock, if you accept only the material basis, and parasites induce shock. That’s how they successfully feed.
I only understand this as psychological trauma. Did your depression seem to be dependent on the contents of your personal intelligence? Did it seem to operate only according to the behaviour patterns of your personality?
On experience (former trauma) and on chemical imbalance and on genes. The chemicals have no independent existence from you? The genes only contain your personal conscious content?
They are produced (or not produced) by my adrenal glands. They are absorbed through dietary intake, even respiratory ingestion.
I eat genes? I inhale genes? You eat the material that goes into genetic reproduction, and you inhale the materials that allow the metabolism that allows the building of new genetic material.
I have my own DNA. You do not. You have your parents and grandparents DNA, and you have scraps of DNA left over from every virus you have ever caught, as well as epigenetic bonding vectors that make your DNA behave as if it was coded differently.
But has it changed my DNA? Yes. Chronic distress, states of mind and consciousness do alter DNA.
What is epigenetic? The impact of other chemicals and foreign genetic material on the mechanical behaviour of the DNA. Your DNA can have sections blocked out to make it read as if it was coded differently.
Like cancer? I thought we were born with those genetic glitches. No, nor can one be born immune to cancer.
We don’t acquire them. They can be acquired. That is what a carcinogen is, cigarettes, asbestos in insulation, the widespread use of synthetic hormones, specifically synthetic estrogen. We are born with some elements and acquire others, and our psychological state can even activate and deactivate specific traits. Inflammation caused by increased cortisol levels can activate a whole mess of genetic coding errors.
But my purpose was to tackle this topic in a subjective manner, as I do value it, and feel it offers a valuable handle on experience outside of seeing everything as a mechanistic process. I personally feel the subjective experience arises for a reason, as delusional as that might possibly be.
It seems the topic has been lost. Anyone believe in a spirit? Some agreement of terms is necessary, so believing that a spirit of some form exists is necessary for the topic “spirits of madness”, and thus the belief that the spiritual life matters is necessary.
“It is the mark of an intelligent person that they can entertain an idea without necessarily accepting it.” I understand the value of believing in spirits, and see no real reason not to. I don’t insist on absolute acceptance of anything I talk about. If the framework I offer works for you then good, if it just entertained you then that is good also.
Your thoughts are welcome. Be well friends.